Your plane looks great, and videos are inspiring. There is a Bushmaster option that features oversized landing gear tires and heavy-duty brakes. William I think the Peterson 182 should perform better than my airplane, they can fly at a flatter angle than mine, I have talked to a pilot who owns one but he never does backcountry flying with it so we could not compare, Having said that , I have seen Todd Peterson videos of the backcountry and we approach at the same speeds to the same strips, mine is even slower some times, I try to keep it very light weight. While not yet STCed for the 182, B&C Specialty Products, of Newton, Kansas, sells a 20- amp backup alternator system that mounts on an engine accessory pad. Learn more, Cessna Flyer Association1042 N Mountain Ave Suite B #337Upland, CA91786Phone: 626-844-0125, Cessna Flyer Association 2004-2022 All Rights Reserved. Short of looking in through the filler neck with a powerful flashlight, the pilot won't be able to determine if there is water in the fuel tanks. Sierra Industries, of Uvalde, Texas, sells the STC for what is known as the "Robertson STOL" installation. No matter when or where you read it, it'll put you in a Skylane frame of mind. by CamAero Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:57 am, Post Looking for advice or opinions on Stol Mods for the Cessna 100 series aircraft, Specifically the 182. While there are modifications that increase the max gross weights for certain Cessna 180s, this is the only maximum gross weight increase that is available on the 182 series. The DHC-6 Twin Otter bears de Havilland Canadas hallmark of rugged reliability and longevity. wondering what your early thoughts are of the p-ponk? 12.22.2013 - Initial article format Operating aircraft on skis and negotiating a snow-covered landscape is an entirely unique skillset and environment. Cessna 182 Cowl Body Fairing Kit. really dont want to lose any airspeed but I guess to gain on the low end its almost inevitable we lose some on the high end. Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests. Both of these kits are effective, relatively easy to install, and inexpensive. 2012 CESSNA 182T SKYLANE $588,000 Reg# N4925Q TT: 906 . Thanks for doing the homework for us. Do the STOL kits and the VGs affect the top cruising speed of the 182? There seem to be a lot of 206 pilots on the channel. And it can be rigged with floats or skis for water landings and snowy/icy terrain. Wow. Currently working as a Line Service Technician at the Provo Airport, Corey has plans to continue working in the field of aviation, with an eye on learning to fly anything he can. I have a the Sportsman STOL, VGs, PPONK engine, BAS seat belts. I recommend you the Pponk upgrade, same cost as aO470 Reman and more power and longer TBO. We use Mailchimp as our marketing platform. If you were to do it again would you put your HUD in the same place or would you move it left or right of where it currently is? Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store. We believe that by sharing personal experiences we gain insight and become better pilots. And is he smiling. This gives the wings better ground clearance when landing on unprepared runways and provides pilots better ground visibility during landing and take-off. Over the years, the G-21 has undergone several modifications to its engines, avionics, windows, and landing gear to adapt the airplane for its new role as a bush plane. WING-X STOL will increase your flight performance by as much as 30% and your gross takeoff weight by as much as 400 Lbs. It includes details on their firepower, dynamic handling, airspeed, advanced electronics, and gadgetry. But I did not check it like and engineer would. For people who prefer to buy the aircraft as a kit to assemblethemselves, CubCrafters offers the Carbon Cub EX, a kit version of the Carbon Cub SS. The AOA meter is sometimes confusing. This predictable scenario has resulted in a number of fatal accidents. Do get the 7.0 on the nose did you install a new nose fork? My dad has a C210 and we fly around together quite a bit. The Cessna 182 we have been modifying is a 1965 H model. For starters, it has impressive STOL capabilities comparable only to rotorcraft. by Lost Lake Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:49 am, Return to Bush Flying & Specialty Air Service, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. C185, C206 come to mind. Was tempted to mod them and see what kind of performance numbers I net.. Former "Bushpacer" owner, joined the dark side and got a 182 A pitot tube generally has to be wayyyy misaligned to read that inaccurately. WANTED: Looking to buy Cessna 182 STOL and Bush plane ready with IO-550 Engine and Sportstman STOL KIT . Both the Experimental Aircraft Association and Petersen Aviation in Minden, Nebraska, sell auto fuel STCs for $1 per horsepower. Honest 182 owners will tell you they flight plan for 130 to 135 knots at normal cruise altitudes and power settings. I installed the Sportsman on my 170 several years ago and on my 180 a couple of years ago. Its larger and wider and it works as an airbrake when at full pitch and no power, which helps for steep approaches Better climb, quieter. I owned a Robertson 206 and the very first Robertson 180. The wings are rigged to factory setup currently. The Sportsman STOL wing cuff is a state of the art modification originally designed by Lockheed Skunkworks to increase light plane utility and safety by increasing the wings efficiency and resistance to stalls and spins. The "do it one time and you will never again have a problem" solution is the installation of umbrella-type fuel caps. Planes like the 182 are designed for efficient cruising balanced by reasonable field performance compared to dedicated STOL machines like the Beaver and Super Cub that are slow no matter what you do to them. Current tires are 8.50sx6 in the mains and 7.006 in the nose Based on my six years of experience as a tech rep for the Cessna Pilots Association, there are three things Cessna 182 owners are most interested in. ). For a look at all the current STCs, visit the FAA's Web site ( http://av-info.faa.gov/stc/). The Airglas Heavy Duty Nose Fork is the best way to get your Cessna into the Backcountry. It fits into the small to medium-sized bush planes category, and it is suitable for flying large cargo to small remote airstrips. Added new article from Ravi Fry The Airplane of the Week this week is the. The P-ponk o-470 conversion is pretty good too. All rights reserved. Short of that, the only way is to reduce the cost of fuel. After getting a pilot's license in October of 2013, Corey has logged around 150 hours flight time, and is working on his instrument rating, and tailwheel endorsement. Although the production run of the Pilatus PC-6 Porter ended in 2019, the aircraft ranks among the most durable bush planes ever produced. There are 577 STCs for the 182 currently in the FAA's registry. The Most Expensive Fighter Jets & What Makes Them Special. by CamAero Sat Nov 17, 2012 3:10 pm, Post This is a huge upgrade for my flying, finally I have gauges I can trust, now it show exactly how much fuel I have in my fuel tanks, this senders are new technology and they are reliable and accurate. The AOPA Air Safety Foundation's study of the Cessna 182 has been compiled into a book titled Safety Review Cessna 182 Series. No sinking, no floating, no guessing Vx Vy Vg. Like his father, he also wants to be a flight instructor, and one day get his own Super Cub, so he can fly the back country in style! The tailwheel conversion was paired with the Bush STOL kit. Aircraft with large low-pressure tires are suitable for landing on rough terrains like the Tundra or gravel runways. When you post a message, your IP is logged and may be provided to concerned parties where unethical or illegal The concept for the Cessna 180 came about as an evolution of the Cessna 170. Would you guys suggest the rebuilding of the io-470 with upgraded HP? Learn more about Mailchimp's privacy practices here. Ive flown a p-ponk 182 and it performs great. The pilot who had chosen the 182 as his one and only airplane actually could have many airplanes. We offer full parts, service, installation kits and support for the following Cessna aircraft models: Series 10 and 12: 150 / 152 172 180 / 182 185 Series 12 / 13 / 15 and 79: 206 / 207 / T207 210 / T210 / P210 Please download our PDF brochure for detailed performance and design information. Added safety with a power off stall speed of 40mph, much shorter take offs and landings, better glide, and a lot more fun to fly. For information about our privacy practices, please visit our website. The laws of physics related to aircraft speed increases are ruled by the cube law, which says that doubling the horsepower of an engine will increase the speed by the cube root of two, or 1.26 (26 percent). I really do recommend Phillips aviation oils. Installation of the aluminum reinforcement straps is mandatory on all aircraft models equipped with WING-X STOL kits except the Cessna 206. (Land to the south and takeoff to the north). The Petersons can supply kits for field installations of all the options except for the canard, which must be done at the Performance Plus hangar in Kansas. Additionally, bush planes could still fly even with a damaged tailwheel, and pilots can easily replace it when broken. In the past, 182 owners could only wistfully watch as their neighbors went down to the lake for their flying. And if you are ever looking for passenger, Im a student pilot out of Boise, looking forward to exploit all of Idahos back country. Moore is very happy with his choice. STCed electric motor-driven systems by Airborne, of Elyria, Ohio, and Aero Safe, of Granbury, Texas, are installed on many IFR airplanes. Yes Robert I installed a heavy duty nose fork , and a 700 x 6 tire on the nose. Itll be short But Ill make it as sweet as I can. When the query menu comes up, type "3A13" in the type certificate (TC) window. Check out Corey's Instagram by clicking the icon below: So. Another airplane, I could do 50 mph approaches no problem the very first day I tested it, very stable, very good control at slow speeds, no more running out of elevator when coming real slow for landings. Hi Larry, ALL RIGHTS RESERVED 2022 MEDIA STEW LLC, Our website uses cookies to improve your experience. As Steve has mentioned, I should practice landings until I can hit 630' at full gross, but then the question of landing speed comes in. You can add a couple of skis if you need to land on a glacier. USA (305) 753-5572 . Have you looked at GPS, before and after to verify speeds? In a Cessna 182 its loosing this amount of weight does make a difference in the elevator forces Because of its light weight there is a quicker throttle response, great for windy landings, backcountry operations, short fields. Maybe fly a triangle with ground speed averages and see fit there is an actual change in the KTAS average. Inc., of Eatonville, Washington. Wheee! Initially called King Beaver by de Havilland, the DHC-3 Otter is a larger and more powerful replacement to the successful DHC-2 Beaver. I have seen and recognized them as one of the best out there and cant wait to gain more experience flying them! I observed none. Delete cookies, By using our website, you agree to our use of cookies. It flies great and stalls at 38mph indicated. The 206H Stationair powerful 310 hp Lycoming engine can handle any load hauling task you throw at it. Early Cessna 180/182 Sportsman STOL cruise speed changes I just finished installing the Sportsman on a 182A. THose videos are awesome, I have a 182Q and have been steadily lightening and have a few of the same mods you have, most notable the VGs and the BAS aero belts. Original color was orange and white, old 1970s scheme. so it looks like VG's are where its at for some extra performance and affordability. Also roll response is improved at slow speeds, giving you more instant response and no mushy controls. by 182-SS Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:52 pm, Post The quality inside and out was excellent.". It's known for its ruggedness and versatility as well as its cross country capability and large comfortable cabin. 308 BOERNE Stage Airfield Boerne, Texas 78006 Peterson's Performance Plus, of El Dorado, Kansas, has an STC to install the ultradependable 260-hp fuel-injected IO-470 engine (see " Peterson's 260SE is a Different Breed of 182"). Texas Skyways in Boerne, Texas; Air Plains Services of Wellington, Kansas; and John Jewell Aircraft Inc., of Holly Springs, Mississippi, all have STCs to install 300-hp IO-520 and -550 engines. One reason for the wide spectrum of modifications is that Cessna built a lot of 182s. . Any of these devices that aid control of the airplane at low airspeeds also contributes to survivability in the event of an off-airport landing. Use masking tape over the blocks to hold them in place. Discussion in 'Maintenance Bay' started by denverpilot, Jul 9, 2013. The canard contributes to a flat deck angle during climb and enables the airplane to maintain the same flat deck angle during slow flight at 55 knots. Upgross to 2950lbs, 25% reduced takeoff run on floats, easy install. Seating configuration: bush planes are designed to seat between one or fifteen passengers depending on the aircraft size and purpose. The DHC-2T Turbo Beaver is a more powerful variant equipped with a 680hp Pratt & Whitney PT6A-27 turboprop engine for better performance and payload hauling (2,450Ib) capacity. Copyright 2023 Backcountry Pilot. High-mounted wings: A good bush plane requirement is wings mounted on the fuselage roof. Most (if not all) Cessna aircraft are known as solid, proven airframes. I sent my engine to PPonk to get an upgraded more powerful engine, when Stve m the owner of the shop , saw the insides of my engine he told me it was of the best he has ever seen, cylinders still had the honing, and I was able to sell them for $1,500 to someone who wanted to overhaul them. Piston engines: most bush planes are equipped with piston engines which are easier to maintain in remote areas lacking ground infrastructure and standard maintenance tools. Bush planes are the 21st century equivalent of the covered wagon, steam locomotive, and pony express all rolled into one. "Our main use is on floats in the summer," Pearse said. The earliest use of bush planes was in 1919 when Canadian pilots began using war-surplus Curtiss HS-2L naval aircraft to map forests and fight wildfires. best bang for the buck would have to be VG's, but the wing-x's are also a very good value. I havent ever had the opportunity to fly a standard 182 I have, however, had the awesome chance to fly a. I have always loved the Cessna 182 Skylane as it represents General Aviation in a very timeless and classic way. 1.7k views | By Hangar.Flights Contributor | Last updated on February 11, 2023. The Sportsman STOL is not just a lip on the bottom, but is a re-engineered airfoil. I feel that I can land at 60 knots easily when there is not too much gusting wind and the plane is light. Low-pressure tundra tires: bush planes are often fitted with massive low-pressure tires suitable for landing on the Alaskan and Canadian tundra. In other words, the holder of the STC isn't active so information related to the STC may be unavailable from the holder. The Piper PA_18 Super Cub is the dirt bike of bush planes, and if you have enough money to build a luxury fishing lodge beside a scenic mountain top lake, this is the best bush plane to get you there. Japanese fighter planes of World War 2 rarely get the same level of respect and acclaim accorded to the Allied fighter aircraft of the same era, despite being among the best military aircraft of the war. The regular wing width and the sportsman wing width. Kevin Moore, AOPA 968424, shopped around for a new airplane before he finally bought a highly modified Cessna 182. What are the negatives on the VGs? Loose 16 pounds on the nose in case of the Hartzell Prop I replaced. From learning about flight schools and courses, to finding ways to save money before, during and after your flying lessons, weve got you covered. For more information related to auto fuel usage, contact the EAA Flight Center, telephone 920/426-4843, or visit the Web site ( www.eaa.org); Contact Petersen Aviation, telephone 308/832-2050. Inc. Post Office Box 190 Eatonville, Washington 98328 Telephone 888/255-6566 or 360/832-6566 Fax 360/832-6466 Web www.basinc-aeromod.com, Hooker Custom Harness 1322 South Harlem, Suite B Freeport, Illinois 61032 Telephone 815/233-5478 Fax 815/233-5479, Wag-Aero Inc. 1216 North Road Lyons, Wisconsin 53148 Telephone 800/558-6868 Fax 262/763-7595 Web www.wagaero.com, Cessna Pilots Association 3409 Corsair Circle Santa Maria, California 93455 Telephone 805/922-2580 Fax 805/922-7249 Web www.cessna.org, Minnesota Flyer magazine Richard Coffey Post Office Box 750 Sandstone, Minnesota 55072 Telephone 320/245-2111. After having flown the Horton and the Robertson, I believe sportsmen plus VG's, or even just the sportsman, is probably the best setup for a 182. This part of the kit was so successful, Cessna added this cuff starting in 1972 with the 182P model up and through today with the 182T. The Sportsman STOL kit was installed on Fish and Game's 1979 Cessna 185. The Skylane was introduced in 1956 and is still in production today. Bush planes fitted with skis are a common sight in isolated Alaska and Arctic communities during winter. Both Horton STOL Craft, in Wellington, Kansas, and Flite Research, of California City, California, have STCed kits that will improve the slow-flight characteristics and allow slower approaches. by yukonbackcountry Sat Dec 29, 2012 5:31 pm, Post Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. After you have one, looking at the airspeed for landing will feel old fashion. lakes. Wordy, yet no information related to the STOL capabilities. The first 182 was sold at an average equipped price of $17,700. Just upgraded to a Pponk conversion which last week,has 45 more HP, currently I am in the break in process. I recommend that you take a mountain flying course. Cessna 180/182 Sportsman STOL is not just a lip on the Alaskan and Canadian tundra have seen and them. 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