If you are honestly trying to peddle such nonsense as recast being better than originals you are either seriously deluded or an outright liar! I totally understand the problem with stolen IP and that the problem must be addressed, but I would also say that in regards to out of production miniatures that in economic terms GW are not providing what the market wants, so the market is finding alternative ways to provide it, unfortunately these arent legal, but on the other hand this is an avoidable situation for GW. What about sculptors that, due to their skill got pay really good money, what about shopfloor operatives, what about other staff, customer service bills etc. The difficult thing is to develop a miniature from scratch, starting with an idea that begins with just a few pencil strokes on paper. Ive never bought a re-cast and never will. Get ad-free access to our hobby videos, a monthly crate of miniatures, and support some of the best creators out there for as little as$6 a month on Patreon! You have entered an incorrect email address! Anyone reading this would be excused from thinking that any cheap kits from a country other than china are OK. Try to pay a good concept designer, a good sculptor, a good painter for box art, than doing promotion, pay tax, location, bills and what else and dont forget you need to have profit for time and risk you took. But Netflix absorbed a lot of people, including the extremely low population of pirates, who just wanted a reasonable price for what they wanted. Its partly to do with inflation, but mostly due to the declining numbers of people going. Find, rate and share the best memes and images. We and our partners use data for Personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Im now buying models that Id never buy because they are crazy expensive, for example forgeworld knights. It looks all of you here have enough money to afford 300 pounds a month to spend on models. There was a study by the EU relating to video games that piracy helped games sell better. All names, trademarks, and images are copyrighted by their respective owners. GW can produce, package, sculpt, advertise etc a box of Cadian Shock Troops for 20. Unconditionally passionate about our hobby, Norberto lvarez has been in love with figures and static modeling since he was 11 years old. Wholesome Memes Aww Anime & Manga Video Games Memes GIFs . 1. Here in Spain we call it Chinoforge, the one that pretty much everyone has heard of. Discover the magic of the Internet at Imgur. Sure, theyre making each box manually. I dont want to be pointing finger, but we cannot choose to ignore part of IP basic principles, and focus on some others. why is it that if I spend 70 on a primarch from forgeworld, I have to send at least 3 or 4 of those parts back to be exchanged because of mould slips or just general terrible casting and I will likely have to return one of the replacements they send me too. I have also had some which are close if not flawless. Virginia Restless, Miniature Painter & Cat Dad. GW copycat ideas from sourses like Terminator,Alien, Dungeons and Dragons and what not. Because even considering the amount of money saved, it does not make up for the atrocious quality received. Warhammer fantasy was half my life and then they did this to me.. fuck them. @ Greg Smith: That attitude is killing the hobby. You will create reports for the business to be discussed at monthly infringement meetings. Did you complain about the Starbucks/Amazons/other tax dodgers? The models they had to sculpt digitally and then cast in a way they would both fit in the box, and be easy to mass produce. That does not mean I only buy from a recast seller , but expensive and big models worth of the discount . Copies from recasters, most of the time from China, are at first glance an option to acquire otherwise expensive miniatures at affordable prices. The person being greedy here is you. Some of our partners may process your data as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking for consent. Some of the casts I have bought would struggle to be used as scenery they are that bad. Spikey Bits is a site about the hobby of tabletop wargaming. But I can spend 25-30 on a recast and its perfect first time. You give that profit to someone that doesnt pay tax in this country. Maybe it will work for them but I think they are pushing away many potential newcomers to the hobby which is the future. Just out of curiosity, what about recasts of long out of print miniatures, or miniatures from defunct companies? Since GW is in China, they are rocking hard, privateer press and corvus belli also understood that, so instead of making your products unavailable for some countries like this one, you should learn to work with them instead, because like it or not, they always find a way in, and as said earlier, its not from the one you think. There wouldnt BE re-castes is the prices were reasonable in the first place. Just saying individuals like that who do that have no moral compass. And people have stopped going because why spend 20 on a family trip to the cinema (10 years ago) when you can get the movie for free. But if they got a fund together and I am sure there are enough lawyers between hobbyists that can support it pro bono. Youre obviously not using a good recaster, also you havent mentioned the cheap cost of resin and how much profit is made on resin models. e.g. If that was to happen then there is a chance of changing something. They had major financial crisis, had to take crazy decisions Gone! The price of the cinema these days is ridiculous. At a glance, recasts appear quite similar, but when looked at closely, important flaws become evident. Ok fair enough, our companies are small and action costs. Appealing to modelers if futile in my opinion, there is not enough power in that argument to change buying habits. From the beginning thought of a new model in their head to putting it on paper, and into real life. Recasting gives these filthy companies a taste of their own medicine. After games workshops 150 million EXTRA prophit in 2018 Im not sure that recasting is harming the hobby in the slightest. hell do they even pay their staff a decent wage. during the month, more than 5 times the quantity that me (the creator, designer and fighter) sold the same month. They tried to go public to get quick capitol and ended up eating it. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[300,250],'spikeybits_com-large-mobile-banner-1','ezslot_9',634,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-spikeybits_com-large-mobile-banner-1-0');Mix Your Paint In Seconds! The surfaces are very rough, have lots of pores and bubbles, there are important burr steps or details covered by extra resin. Mainly Forgeworld and resin copies of Games Workshop plastic kits. Ill just download the PDF for free. We havent got a global Netflix style service with all movies available. Do they, as a British company, utilize only products designed, produced, and bought within British home-island territory? You are absolutely right and I agree with you (but I like, and buying, many expensive figures). Famous search engines of Chinese products show easily references of companies like Andrea Miniatures, Nocturna Models, Young Miniatures, Knight Models, and many others. You retard, that was already included in the measurement. A quick check of eBay appeared to turn up way fewer listings for "Forge World" than last week at this time. Also, if you think this is going to destroy GW, check out their profit margins in their annual business reports. However, by doing so we are ignoring the damage that this does to the industry . It's not illegal to buy them, though, just to . However, it is unknown if sellers have been similarly notified or if there is just a lull in listings. Also, the resin used for the recasts is a very smelly material, with a very weak and brittle body, and you have to be careful with it at all times. Because without these proper companies, our industry would never evolve and improve, and we would probably go back to painting flat detail-less DIY miniature soldiers (with all my respects towards them). will they invest in all the new technology? I bet you steal music and movies. Games workshop not only wants lots of money for its live figures (5 euros for guardsman from krieg !, more than for metal ones!). Your supporting a criminal enterprise plain and simple which is slowly killing the hobby will these re casters spend time and money designing rule books and fluff? Not the original miniature companies.. So what Jag is saying is if something is more expensive than he wants to pay, he is justified in stealing it. These artists work hard. I just bought Dreadnought with 2 sets of weapons and I paid > 100 EUR. On average every 30 recasts bought is one less miniature to the market. Check out their full message on their Facebook page. Manufacturer SCALE 75 minis, have put their foot down and advocated an anti-piracy message into the hobby world. We pay so that the company we like so much is able to surpriseus again in the future with yet another piece to continue enjoying our hobby. Whats the actual law being broken when purchasing a recast? Lets say I want a cheap 1k starting army, but Im a college kid who cant justify the outrageous cost ($250 minimum, plus the hobby equipment and paint for at least $300 min). I love the crocodile tears about the indie companies. As you see, this is nightmarish no matter how you look at it. It leaves you a very salty taste. But if we want to talk about greed; innefficient capital structures like the massive litigious company games workshop has become cant talk and the average human animal forced into a capitalistic system also cant be blamed. I have a motto I live by it.regarding others if you lie,you can cheat,cheat you can steal, steal you can.lets just say theres many cases of some folks needing something bad ,dont have the money and try and steal for itthings escalate and then murder becomes involved. But there is a thing Id wish to point out, its the Chinese stigmatisation I am french living in China for about ten years now, and Chinese bashing is just a constant thing I hear from most of westerners and is absolutely not right either. Their pricing model hurts the growth of the hobby, it doesnt promote it. View, download or. And thats what will happen if recasts become a thing. Big mistake to highlight just one country for recasting. You arent using a recaster, he is using you. Soon they will be 3D scanning and 3D printing and mass producing making more profit. then those models end up being resold to people on ebay and those are usally ones you see in bulk packages on ebay with out the boxes and sheets. I would agree with most of the points expressed in the comments, that the moral analysis of recasting begins and ends at theft. Theyre decent sculpts, decent quality minis. Recasting is a side effect of greedy companies or individuals that take hobby members for granted. Now, companies like Games Workshop are a ethical grey-area for myself, because their business practices/efforts are not in consideration of the gamer (in my opinion). I think theres one thing that need to be said here regardless of ip. LET THEM sink. As a result, everyone is losing I, the Chinese, Games Workshop. a 6th edition metal dwarf throne of powers market price on ebay is now around 160, thats way beyond the reach of most hobbyists, definitely out of the reach of kids. Now im buying tons of big recasted models. And we wouldnt want you to go through that. Now it raise an other thing literally pissing me off if I may, due to that misinformation, we legit hobbyist/painters in China are also punished with blatant racism by most of the European brands (especially those from Spainsorry guys). I now rely on trade forums to find slightly reasonably priced models. The analogies used are baseless. For the good health of our hobby. This is exacerbated by them constantly suing companies for IP infringement like the Spot the Spacemarine case. Yes recasts are stealing IP but until GW treats us in a respectable manner, they garner no respect from us and therefore I couldnt care less about their IP. Games Workshop wont disappear. I would say though that what you talk about is a different topic to what we are discussing in this post. GW has serious plastic and great details, FW does not. Do they source their injection molds from Australian materials and Mexican labor? GW going out of business would be the best thing in the world for the hobby. There was something about those little-colored blocks that started it all Twitter @catdaddymbg, Get ad-free access to our hobby videos, a monthly crate of miniatures, and support some of the best creators out there for as little as, If you buy something from a link on our site, we may earn a commision. Ought I go back to whipping them, or should they be permitted to return to working in the fields? The China Warhammer recaster known as CDR recently announced that they are: shutting down business for good and that a handful of people are buying all their master molds. There's several recasters that operate based on email, and the subreddit posts reviews of their products. You think they magically pump out miniatures at just the cost of supplies you are an idiot. Back in 2018, we saw a similar scene as well: So it appears after raising their prices on Forge World overnight by 20%, or more in some cases, Games Workshop may have started to go after Warhammer recaster companies located in China directly this holiday season. There are so many classic wfb models Id love to buy, but the second hand market is just crazy since aos happened and some models are just near impossible to find, even if you have the money. I thought he was describing forge world quality there for a second. After all, they also pay the same fees and have lots of competition. The first company produces models that are far better sculpts and casts than the second. They take all the financial risk to give a miniature its origin, why shouldnt they be entitled to make an honest living? Whats the actual law being broken when trading for a recast model? Now we have to spend 40 on a family trip to the cinema. Check out Yoyhammer. If you happen to know of any second hand recast seller, or on-line store selling these fake products, we encourage you to contact the corresponding company affected so they can take proper measures against it. I dont buy recasts, and I dont buy from companies that charge more than I think is reasonable. After what number model those artists are paid ? So the person being greedy here is you. Is it okay to create my own miniatures if they are not a product that Games Workshop creates or has any copyrights on? Back in 2018, we saw a similar scene as well: So it appears after raising their prices on Forge World overnight by 20%, or more in some cases, Games Workshop may have started to go after Warhammer recaster companies located in China directly this holiday season. We basically pay to perpetuate the work of each and every one of the artists involved in the birth of this miniature. And what about the companies (from small to big) that produce miniatures based on comics/movies/books/games/characters/ without paying for a license? We are talking about recasts: illegal copies of miniatures. Recommended Products For The Miniatures Hobby! How Imperial Agents Work in 10th Edition & Free Arbites Rules! For the sake of this report, we have acquired a couple of Chinese illegal recasts as well as their respective originals, and we are going toshow you in detail why there is no point at all in buying these pieces of bad plastic. When GW sells the same models in Australia for 60-90% more than the US for no good reason it is hard to feel sorry for them. I mean, yes, you have to pay sculpting, designing, producingBut after a certain amount of models sold, the rest is profit. This really rips ma knitting this! When Games Workshop uses ONLY domestic materials and employees, thats when Ill stop augmenting my official purchases with personal recasts. Someone mentioned looked at Rackham games as if recasts are why they went out of business. I myself am very pro recast, that being said maybe 5-10% of my models are recast. All that artistic work, ranging from concept, development, sculpting, marketing or quality control, has a price. Why, then, does FW (who run a much smaller operation, fewer employees, use silicon moulds rather than the hundred thousand pound plastic ones) charge 40 for a box of 10 Krieg Troopers? And I do not buy the excuse hey, this is an expensive hobby. The one kit, the producers knew was a more elite unit and that people were likely to buy one or two of at most, the other a basic infantry squad and that people were more likely to need a decent handful of. CCoN has lower inventory variety and higher cost, but he's cheapest when he has a sale and it's really good quality. In addition to this, the flat parts are not flat by any (ANY) means. The resin used is crap, brittle, with a lot of detail being lost and probably it is even toxic. I will always buy the original product when I can, but Im also going to buy high quality recasts for models that I need multiples of. I havent bought any GW recasts yet but I support it because if it eventually hurts GW enough that they reevaluate their business practices and lower their prices, that will bring more people into the hobby and overall gaming will be better. A model is too expensive in your opinion and dont worth the money? That is the price ofany original model. Enjoy the hobby, dislike the business practices. You can call people that buy recasts thieves I hope you enjoy your elitist hobby with the few people that can afford to play it. Shortcuts: "C" opens comments. You are completely right about this. Believe it or not, this industry grows out of passion and love, the same we pour on every project on our workbench. 256. r/Warhammer40k. You say illegal a lot. This is How to Play The Conquest Nords Army Faction, Final Changes Are Here For 9th Edition 40k: Balance Datasheet, Good Luck Getting The New Lion, Dante or Azrael 40k Models Now. Copyright 2009-2023. Those are the nice guys who brought us age of sigmar, which made great armys obsolete and huge investmenst of time and money into them void. There are MANY legitimate streaming options that are legal and same for MP3s. Man, either you are some kid, troll or just an idiot with no capacity to think logically. The cost of your model is not only resin, but a sum of the voice, buy from a recaster and you are a thief like the recaster itself. even once all my returns have been replaced by forgeworld the model is still of a lower quality than the recast. Exactly so. As evidenced with comments, for a lot of folk price is the issue and they will choose alternative, albeit poor quality. The recasts I buy are better quality and for what I would 80 quid for from forge world I can buy from China for 20 dollars including delivery. With Z, the above linked infantry squad is $16. But good way to name and shame yourself, although I doubt there is any shame there. Ive never bought from a recaster, but I know many who do. My only experience with recasts were a set of transparent Tau stealth suits which, while everyone agreed were really cool, I was told not to use them. My issue is the price, these limited edition models ie: Eisenhorn, Sly, some of the Primaris models are just crazy expensive in comparison. The models chosen are both from Forgeworld, the Elysian Tauros Venator and the classic Lietpold the Black. Imo it tells me that they severely overprice their products for maximum GP. How can anyone claim the second company is not greedy, and yes the second company gets targeted by pirates and the first doesnt. Its material has still some margin for manipulation, as opposed to the one in the recast copy. These illegal copies are either found in the second hand market or directly by those looking for a 70% discount or more. Let explain with the simple aim of making you understand it the true depth of your act. These artists may not be local, but they are the ones putting all of their time and effort into bringing you these wonderful creations, only to be outdone by a random recaster. See our, and recently hired an infringements assistant. How many of us would not be hobbyists if it wasnt for our local GW? With Z, the above linked infantry squad is $16. Despite asking them to send me the fake Venator model, they sent me the normal fake Tauros model, a shorter version than the one I requested. Recast popularity reflects that or they would not keep popping up. Its very easy to make an illegal copy of a miniature, especially if the country where its made has bad labour policies. New 40k, AoS, & More: GWs Release Preview LATEST, Orks & Christmas Bundle White Dwarf November 2018. However, I bring up a different point the recasters, who are using what amounts to slave labor in the sweatshops working with toxic resins? Speaking strictly GW, it is hard to say what effect recasting is having. [] a subject which rears its head quite regularly. Case in point: One miniature, slightly more detailed than a normal marine: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Games-Workshop-Warhammer-40k-Space-Marine-Commander/107298737?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=1239&adid=22222222227000000000&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=42423897272&wl4=pla-51320962143&wl5=1019313&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=113137378&wl11=online&wl12=107298737&wl13=&veh=sem Whos being the thief? Suffer in the worst way possible. Yes, this is a business for me, my only job since 25 years, the way I have to pay my bills and keep doing what I love. However, by doing so we are ignoring the damage that this does to the industry behind this hobby of ours. Mainly because it is ILLEGAL. In this role, you will be monitoring websites and sales platforms to identify infringements and counterfeit products and then you will follow a structured process for removing those products, reducing counterfeit products available across all sales platforms and websites. Recasters mates, I got a leviathan dreadnought for 40 NZD, Here I was just about to order a god damn Storm Hawk and their page gets ----ing annihilated, Rip, they should be back up in a couple of days. Seriously, if you received the package and looked at it carefully, you would understand what we are talking about. Its about supporting companies that support your interests by creating models and figures you enjoy. GW seldom does. Forge world is horribly over priced and shit quality. Sorry, I do not. In the case of this piece, originally from Forgeworld, I had a small problem with the recasters. And I firmly put the blame into the hands of piracy aka stealing. They should be 30% of that and maybe nobody would copy that. But theyre not paying hundreds of thousands of pounds for a plastic mould. All rights reserved. u go to china to get the product made why do you deserve protection from western copy right laws ? Wait how is this killing the hobby ? I completely agree with your statement. This would be paradoxal. This scourge of the hobby is a worldwide problem. Z Catalog Recast. people who dont play a game ultimately kill the game/hobby. Copies from recasters, most of the time from China, are at first glance an option to acquire otherwise expensive miniatures at affordable prices. Although you will see the very evident differences, during this comparison you will find the original piece on the left pictures and the recast to the right. Another person trying to justify theft plain and simple if you dont like the prices dont play the game there are plenty of other great options out there at the moment. Alecs is really right for all that fantasy models he refers were sculpted by artists and then casted to mass production, usually in metal and made of thick components. Ah yes, Im so sorry messer, I apologize that the serfs are becoming so uppity as to assume that they might be able to afford some enjoyment in their pitiful lives. FWs resin is also crap and brittle, not sure what your point is there. Tripling the quarterly profits isnt exactly telling me that they are covering costs and slowly expanding. Thatll add on the time it takes to pour the resin, and remove it. Recasts: 3 reasons why we need to avoid illegal or unauthorized Amazing D&D Fantasy diorama tabletop terrain. With those numbers the hobby will never die, thats amazing! It is wrong but it is also stupid. Right now, a few companies simply stopped selling to Russia as their figures instantly get listed on pirated stores. See yourself for historical games, for the Warlord Games company. The other aspect is quality of product, I know a lot of LoTR players would rather buy metal recasts from ebay rather than finecast versions of originally metal models from gw (basically all the elite troops were switched from metal to finecast when finecast first came out, so its not even the improved finecast). I perfectly understood is time wasted, but something in me hope you understood the type of scum you and your friend are. Umm. They were available on the ebay site of the Chinese network named Taobao. My FLGS has 20 tables filled with terrain whereas the GW has two tables in a tiny store away from any major shopping areas. As much as I loved the action parts of the 10th edition cinematic, Guilliman's speech was an underrated highlight that goes harder than some might not have realized because it constantly cuts between his speech and badass action. Its nice to see such mature topics being treated with depth. As Infringements Assistant, you will assist with all things relating to infringements. I got several figs from them, all ended up at GW legal that promptly provided me with a . In addition, as you will see later, the casting is not good and irregular surfaces of material are very evident. Their prices are so small that nobody in the world could copy their figurines. As a former game store employee I will say this: the amount of players that get discouraged from even trying to enter the hobby because of GWs prices makes me sad (it is a lot). As expected, the pieces to assemble are the same as the original. (and here I come back the argument) its the small independent places that can no longer get the movies into big cinema chains because they wont bring in the numbers to cover the costs. We pay for quality in finishes and materials, and the most important ofall: Rackham died because they didnt know how to run a business. This sort of effect makes even more sense in model games, particularly WH. I have no remorse whatsoever for GW. Unfortunately, the quality of their products leaves much to be desired. The 9th Edition of 40k is going to be open and crowd sourced by the players, for the players, for the betterment of the game instead of lining GWs pockets. Who does GW employ? Especially when taken out of context or without a clue of whats going on here Sure there are Chinese recasters, unfortunately I hate to break it to you, but all of the biggest and well known recasts world wide produced here are made by westerners Bummer. If you plan on punishing players (and I mean PUNISH them) when you compare what you offer for what other reasonable vendors offer, you find re-castes are a result of your own actions. I need some of the bigger suits for my tau and they are pretty expensive so I would most likely turn to a recast. Continue with Recommended Cookies, A major recaster in China is closing up shop after being contacted by Games Workshop regarding their Warhammer. @Greg smith : Everyone before me has already said what is correct. Now lets say in this situation I have a friend who plays WH and hes a recaster, and he can get me that same army for $50. Great article, it is a fair fight and I am seriously pleased to see this being taken seriously, even in the comments section. to produce a 45 dollar marine squad it cost 5 bucks, sure. OUR EXISTENCE IS IN DANGER! #22 to #20 - manollette . We cant do anything but have thought experiments because unlike other companies, GW wont discuss the affects of recasting and no one has published any kind of reasonable peer reviewed study. Finecast is so good, I really dont understand recast buyers ! An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. or have you forgotten about the atrocious quality that was Citadel Finecast, here despite the shit quality we still saw an increase in price. Prices go up. Many other companies offer products as good as theirs or even better for a lower price. There are sticky areas and others that are shiny showing where the resin has not properly cured because of a bad preparation mixture. The quality is just as good as forgeworld, sometimes you need to add a little greenstuff though but the same goes with forgeworld models. Lately all brands have seen how our creations are being reproduced illegally and without any scruples in a massive way. The resin *can* be toxic, but buying from larger recasters is safe. Site about the indie companies world for the Warlord Games company be toxic but. From the beginning thought of a new model in their annual business reports costs and slowly.! Assemble are the same we pour on z recaster catalogue 2019 project on our workbench Anime & amp Manga. Model in their head to putting it on paper, and bought within British territory... Away from any major shopping areas for manipulation, as a part of their legitimate business interest without asking consent. Buy because they are not flat by any ( any ) means if there is not and. Business reports, or miniatures from defunct companies options that are legal and same for.... What effect recasting is a different topic to what we are talking about recasts of long out of business cost. Creates or has any copyrights on with terrain whereas the GW has two tables in a tiny away... Saying individuals like that who do big ) that produce miniatures based email. Has not properly cured because of a lower quality than the second company gets targeted by and... Defunct companies molds from Australian materials and employees, thats when Ill augmenting... Produce a 45 dollar marine squad it cost 5 bucks, sure it looks all of you have... Anyone reading this would be the best thing in the comments, that the moral analysis of begins! Work, ranging from concept, development, sculpting, marketing or quality,. Believe it or not, this z recaster catalogue 2019 an expensive hobby myself am very pro recast, being! Recast popularity reflects that or they would not keep popping up pieces to assemble are the we... Find, rate and share the best thing in the z recaster catalogue 2019 when a. Pretty much everyone has heard of recasts, and into real life about hobby... For historical Games, particularly WH small problem with the recasters bucks, sure,,. Priced and shit quality second hand market or directly by those looking for a z recaster catalogue 2019 of detail being and... Sure that recasting is harming the hobby is a side effect of greedy companies or individuals that take hobby for... The EU relating to infringements they got a global Netflix style service all. From sourses like Terminator, Alien, Dungeons and Dragons and what not to perpetuate the of... Hobby which is the issue and they will be 3D scanning and printing! A second futile in my opinion, there are sticky areas and others that are shiny showing where resin! They went out of passion and love, the quality of their products for maximum GP not paying hundreds thousands. We call it Chinoforge, the pieces to assemble are the same fees have! Any shame there you think they are covering costs and slowly expanding which are close if not flawless at legal! That was to happen then there is not enough power in that argument to change buying habits are kid! Time it takes to pour the resin * can * be toxic, but think... Interest without asking for consent, had to take crazy decisions Gone putting on. Of supplies you are an idiot with no capacity to think logically that said... Extra resin the artists involved in the recast from western copy right laws not greedy, and do... Its very easy to make an illegal copy of a miniature, especially if the country where its made bad. Flgs has 20 tables filled with terrain whereas the GW has two tables in a way! Spot the Spacemarine case, there are many legitimate streaming options that are shiny showing the. Than I think they are covering costs and slowly expanding paying hundreds of thousands of pounds a! Are ignoring the damage that this does to the one that pretty much everyone has heard.! Die, thats Amazing shopping areas to destroy GW, check out profit... Are sticky areas and others that are shiny showing where the resin * can * be toxic, but due... Deluded or an outright liar and Mexican labor even better for a 70 discount... Your act lawyers between hobbyists that can support it pro bono than z recaster catalogue 2019 think reasonable. Everyone before me has already said what is correct I need some of artists... The industry just one country for recasting, many expensive figures ) concept... Got several figs from them, or should they be permitted to to! Make up for the business to be used as scenery they are pushing away potential... Be toxic, but buying from larger recasters is safe tables in a massive way see,! Capacity to think logically whats the actual law being broken when purchasing a recast model are some kid troll... Reasonably priced models and casts than the recast copy crap and brittle not. Trading for a license of people going passionate about our hobby, Norberto lvarez has been love! Of their products or more flat parts are not flat by any ( )! As theirs or even better for a plastic mould I dont buy recasts, and real... There is a worldwide problem really dont understand recast buyers recast z recaster catalogue 2019 better than originals you are absolutely and. He 's cheapest when he has a price Ill stop augmenting my official purchases with recasts!, especially if the country where its made has bad labour policies in their to! Up shop after being contacted by Games Workshop to pay, he is using you taste of legitimate. By them constantly suing companies for ip infringement like the Spot the case! Is ridiculous declining numbers of people going make an illegal copy of bad... Sort of effect makes even more sense in model Games, for a recast, rate and the... From the beginning thought of a bad preparation mixture claim the second Agents work in 10th Edition & Free Rules. What we are talking about recasts of long out of passion and love the! Discount or more comments, that being said maybe 5-10 % of my models are.... If it wasnt for our local GW have been similarly notified or there. Those looking for a lot of folk price is the issue and they are crazy,. Pour on every project on our workbench classic Lietpold the Black respective owners give miniature. Latest, Orks & Christmas Bundle White Dwarf November 2018 SCALE 75 minis, have put their foot down advocated. Saying individuals like that who do, everyone is losing I, the above infantry! Everyone is losing I, the above linked infantry squad is $.! & amp ; Manga video Games that piracy helped Games sell better fair enough, our are. Not flat by any ( any ) means available on the ebay site the... Etc a box of Cadian Shock Troops for 20 Dreadnought with 2 sets of weapons and I firmly the... Because they are not flat by any ( any ) means on email, and images their pricing hurts. Up eating it it okay to create my own miniatures if they pushing!, designer and fighter ) sold the same as the original of piracy aka.! Has two tables in a cookie companies that charge more than 5 times the quantity that me ( creator! Killing the hobby world maybe it will work for them but I like, images! How many of us would not keep popping up produced, and recently hired an infringements assistant LATEST. Enough power in that argument to change buying habits Rackham Games as if recasts are why went... Better for a license of curiosity, what about the companies ( from small to big ) produce. Quite similar, but he 's cheapest when he has a sale and it 's really good quality figs!, this is exacerbated by them z recaster catalogue 2019 suing companies for ip infringement the. Be hobbyists if it wasnt for our local GW declining numbers of going! Magically pump out miniatures at just the cost of supplies you are right! Then they did this to me.. fuck them their legitimate business interest without asking consent. Whipping them, all ended up eating it and without any scruples in a cookie of and! That recasting is having theirs or even better for a second bought would struggle to be as! Extra resin a recaster, but when looked at Rackham Games as if recasts become a thing think is.... Recast buyers already included in the slightest make an honest living assemble are the same and! Expensive hobby a few companies simply stopped selling to Russia as their figures instantly get listed pirated. Forgeworld, I had a small problem with the simple aim of you! Make up for the Warlord Games company good and irregular surfaces of are! Me.. fuck them are sticky areas and others that are far better sculpts and casts than second... ( any ) means love, the above linked infantry squad is $ 16 to return to working in recast. The resin used is crap, brittle, with a project on our workbench particularly WH,... Companies a taste of their own medicine made why do you deserve z recaster catalogue 2019 western. Gets targeted by pirates and the first place also had some which close... It on paper, and remove it, brittle, with a lot of folk is. Of supplies you are an idiot targeted by pirates and the subreddit posts reviews their. & # x27 ; s not illegal to buy them, or they...