What if Sony just called Phil's bluff and allowed Game Pass on their system? IP that they developed and that was, unless I'm mistaken, never available on other platforms. I think theres a chance that MS wouldnt have even acquired Zenimax had Sony not picked up Deathloop and Ghostwire Tokyo as exclusives and attempted to get Starfield as well. Should not stop the players playing everything like pcs I still think the hardwere would sell that's why it will be down to the best features instead of games. Now they dont have to worry about it. I'll just get back to platinuming* Rift Apart now. @Hypnotoad107 I remember Rare losing a lot of staff after they were acquired by MS and had to make those poor Kinect titles. Fallout: New Vegas is famed for the freedom it lends the player over Fallout 3, letting you take the story and gameplay in many different directions. It was awesome but I think the Stream made it quite difficult to get into as mine was quite jerky at times. If PS5 crushes XBX in sales, maybe there could be some ports further down the road but I'm not holding my breath. its how i relax and unwind. @JJ2 That's an important point actually. Many people also enjoy other game types to change it up and the new reality is other platforms offer better experiences for those tastes. @MrDoug91 not really they have to make games people want to play & that is the hard part buying something is easy. Now that they have some everyone's pissed. Well, we can kiss goodbye to backwards flying dragons and game breaking bugs for a while at least. I for one will be getting both consoles somewhere down the line. This is completely different and you know this. BUT, people who don't have titles and have worked there for decades do all the work and get paid under $80k (bonus included). Building relationships with smaller developers whom don't have major IPs on other platforms is completely different and you know it. Sony have the talent to make alternatives, they should do a Fallout alternative soon, Obsidian came back from a long break and knocked out the outer worlds which was at least as good as any Fallout game, Sony can do the same. Cmon man these comments sections get more condescending by the day. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. Fallout 5 is coming after The Elder Scrolls 6 Hardly surprising that Microsoft got fed up of the line that the PS had the best exclusives, and took action to neutralise those talking points. Directed by James Mangold, the movie also stars Phoebe Waller-Bridge, Antonio Banderas, John Rhys-Davies, Shaunette Renee Wilson, Thomas Kretschmann, Toby Jones, Boyd Holbrook, Oliver Richters, Ethann Isidore, and Mads Mikkelsen. How is it that you give Sony credit for potential future on platformers with things like the developing Astro series, but not MS credit for the potential future of their Western RPGs based on the quality of their studios in this genre now? I used to love Bethesda games (Elder Scrolls and Fallout) bit after playing The Outer Worlds (yes I know it wasn't made by Bethesda but Obsidian made a Bethesfa clone here for sure) I'm just so over this type of game. In this Legend of Zelda Tears of the Kingdom trailer breakdown, Logan Plant highlights Link's four new powers, along with bringing some speculation surrounding some hidden bits tucked away in the gameplay. HDD sales have plummeted this year - so what's next? Sony have these developers the time, money and freedom to make the games they wanted to make and we're all benefitting from that. It'll be interesting to see what happens if/when it does. Youre work isnt going to reach as many people now and thats gotta hurt. That's what people have an issue with. Having a game set in Korea, China, Russia or elsewhere would provide an excellent outlet to change up how the entire map and locations look. Not studios that have been bought/acquired/nurtured. Added stable configuration files of the official version for PlayStation3 and Xbox 360 which many players have had difficulty dealing with crashes with the PC version of Fallout 3. Well we really don't know what type of game starfield is yet, so wait and see for actual footage and gameplay details, the only other game that I'm really interested is elder Scrolls, last fallout was really disappointing so not too hyped for next one atm. By Tyler Fischer - March 12, 2021 08:51 pm EST. Since?when was oh yeah games might come to ps5.we will see to oh no.all games probably will be exclusive to x box.the only games i will probably miss is if they do a new evil within.a new dishonored.or a sequel to prey.and i got too many games to play.so its all goid for me.word up son. I think that it probably is. Click to enlarge. They aren't stupid for owning a console. agreed. Fallout 76 Item (PS4) - FIEND MASK - RARE OUTFIT. But acquisitions like Bethesda and Rare - they're only great for Microsoft. I have to say people saying "this is how it's always been" are seriously downplaying the situation. I think in this instance however MS are doing their anti-competitive act again, pretty much like what they have always done in the software business (see internet explorer), whilst attempting to convince the masses they actually give a ***** about the gaming community - it's laughable and cringeworthy at best. @get2sammyb Yes, it would be as if there was one company that owned the likes of Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac, Guerrilla etc, that released titles on pretty much all platforms and then Sony bought this company and made everything exclusive to their platform/subscription service. Furthermore Im not a huge fan of the Bethesda games. I'm personally not bothered about it at all and do not dispute that it's good Xbox has an exclusive game they're excited for. This game is clunky already you're just making it worse by trying to use a controller. Obviously its much easier to just buy your way into the club. They have a variety of games and people who say "all their games are the same 3rd person whatever" is insane.Their working on providing mutiplats by starting a new studio just for that for this new generation from what i've heard. Privacy Policy. Related Articles News Fallout 4 Gets Free PS5 . It's all it's gonna come down to in the next few years. Just a bit of a messy situation all round. I'm not interested in Bethesda games but good for the MS players if that's what they're into. Fallout 3 Game of the Year Edition includes the original game as well as all five of the Fallout 3 Game Add-on Packs: Awards: Included Add-on Packs: Operation Anchorage Enter a military simulation and fight in the liberation of Anchorage, Alaska from its Chinese Communist invaders. No Pete, I'm sorry that there are people who legitimately had the expectation Microsoft were actually going to keep your games multiplatform after literally buying you for more than Disney paid for Lucasfilm and Marvel combined, This is really funny considering Sony allegedly tried to pay for timed exclusivity on Starfield for PS5 as late as literally months before Microsoft stepped in. I dont know how to allay the fears and concerns of PS5 fans other than to say, well, Im a PS5 player as well, and Ive played games on that console, and theres games Im going to continue to play on it, but if you want to play Starfield, [its on] PC and Xbox., He added: Sorry. I just hope that behind the scenes Sony are planning on making their own sci-fi epic and looking at making a proper Western RPG. Not a fan of Bethesda games really (played some Wolfenstein New Order) so this doesn't bother me particularly. I doubt that. I do still need a new PC anyway, but I am really not ready to drop 3,000 dollars on a new rig yet. (If that's even possible!). Jim Ryan though.. easy calling him a liar when the press completely butchered what he said. Multiplayer/Arena - that goes to multiplats like COD but in the exclusive arena its MS, Platformers - Ratchet and Clank is amazing but this goes to Nintendo, Sports - All systems now have all sports games, Japanese RPG - tied with Nintendo based on preference, Racing - Forza is regarded as top of this tier now, Strategy - probably PC but Im not as familiar with these. @get2sammyb True. Now ID did Doom and Wolfenstien and they were ported alot after floppy release on pc until bethesda took them over. This is one of several mods that makes the PS5 version of Fallout 4 a . ", and I'd point to this acquisition a major turning point. 3rd person Narrative Action/Adventure - Definitely! @middyone we still have the games with the most quality true for some tastes, not all. Its how console business worked since day 1. Im more upset that Sony hadn't made a move in response and is cool trying to compete MS 26 studios compared to there 13. The Series S is very inexpensive and actually pretty easy to find right now. They have produced amazing games from 1985 - Present using only their own teams. @middyone My overall point wasnt that Sony only offers 3rd person narratives. We crow over our exclusives then cry when MS has them? I guarantee in five years when we look back Bethesda being bought by Xbox is bad for everyone. If you've ever played a Fallout game, you'll know how much it loves its doomsday nuclear-ravaged American setting. With them now going against their own narrative of exclusives being anti-consumer they better not have the audacity to complain when the likes of say Persona 6 ends up exclusive to PS5. Ninja Theory for instance, had a hard time staying independent financially. "Yes, Elder Scrolls 6 is in pre-production and, you know, were going to be doing Fallout 5 after that, so our slates pretty full going forward for a while" Howard told the publication. The xbox isn't a better platform now for having Bethesda exclusivity, it will have the same games it would have had anyway, it is only better by comparison for having made Nintendo and Playstation libraries worse. (cloud gaming junk PR talk aside from the second guy). Therefore I am de-incentivised to buy these games on PS due to the potential of not being able to have the follow-up without forking out for another console or gaming PC. Just like Nintendo, Sony, Amazon, Disney, Apple, Google and whatever company in the world the only thing they care about is your money. It's just an opinion mate, not a set of instructions. Everyone keep ***** on Bethesda, but they had no complete say in the matter since it completed over their heads. I bet there's Wii U owners who have had more genuine fun than you have. You want to play Bethesda games by an Xbox. With platformers, everyone knows Nintendo is king. Released on the PS3 to universal critical acclaim, Fallout 3 is widely considered one of the best games of all time. I just respect sony a lot more. DISNEY STILL RETAINS THE RIGHTS TO THE GAMES AND THE LICENSE ITSELF. He sounds like he doesn't like it being that way either, it's just out of his hands. Ok so I just went to metacritic since you mentioned it and did a little research. I reckon.someone at Disney, not having a clue about gaming, probably thought Sony DID have exclusive gaming rights gave them the greenlight to publish on PS only. Still gonna end up garbage games that will never surpass what Sony already done. @BrainHacker But MS didnt get exclusives the RIGHT way. If you like Bethesda games then by proxy you like xbox games now. We have all sorts of social issues and communities being denied their right to live, and we have predatory gaming industry practices, and even less scummy (but still scummy) practices like timed exclusives, yet it's a first party game being a first party exclusive that's triggering people. @__jamiie Of course they are. And just objectively, there's not a single compelling arguement for or against MS buying Bethesda here. The difference in load times compared to the original PS4 is the game changer for me, going from an average 45 seconds to over minute down to 15 seconds or less. I have a PS5 now so I cant buy a physical disc, but have seen that it is available via PS+ subscription. Why? All Sony really did was start the conversation and eventually they got publishing rights, but Marvel owns the games still. We had people for the last few years saying that Sony and Nintendo were anti-consumer for developing and keeping their own exclusive IP on their own platforms. Hello PlayStation fans. It is what it is @trev666 my wife works for a hedgefund and I can tell you from experience, these people will literally light each other on fire to get a larger bonus/salary than anyone else in the office. Sony will just make one of their own Sci fi Rpg's or an Rpg to rival elder scrolls and it will be better and less bug ridden. @ScottyG Bruh Bethesda's support on Switch was trash lol, iD Software basically made up 90-95% of their output with the DOOM games. You don't have to look far to see fans discussing and fantasizing about where Fallout 5 will take place. We've seen optimistic predictions but given Bethesda's focus is resolutely on Starfield and The. You're not going to release any new stuff on Sony's consoles so why sit there and say "it's not our fault!" Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Xbox only crew are happy coz all they care about is the war. The. If Sony bought Bethesda, do you really think Sony players would be upset that they bought a publisher that they didnt have a prior relationship with? Cookie Notice @TheFrenchiestFry. All of this was to be expected when Xbox explored the back of CEO Satya Nadellas sofa, and dug out the $7.5 billion required to buy the publisher outright. I just find it funny the hypocrisy of these people here. I can compare the two because Sony was trying to make ALL of Bethesda published games exclusive. So basically their thinking is that more people can play this game than before even though they've pulled support for PS because you can access it via Xcloud. Honestly, I'd buy my first ever Xbox console for Elder Scrolls 6. I actually have a series S of my own, a series X i bought for my kid so we can play together and a PS5. I won't be hating anyone so, no point in lecturing me. I immediately started researching to see if anymore Fallouts were being developed, but alas it appears not yet. When he talks he reminds me of the directors commentaries from season 8 of Game of Thrones. Good games sell consoles. This is business and it doesn't bother me that MS did this because they needed to coming off a loss last gen. But people really shouldn't need to ask this question. Noam i really bothered that microsoft bought bethesda? I'd have bought TES 6 Day One but now the only way I'll play it is if I swallow my pride and buy into the Xbox ecosystem. Bethesda announced this week that its post-apocalyptic open-world RPG, Fallout 4, will be refreshed on PlayStation 5, Xbox Series S/X, and PC next year with a bunch of enhancements and . It is their choice why it is not exclusive. This is why ive bought each console Microsoft , Nintendo and sony for exclusives. There is no point in going on about it. I agree no studio is the best in all categories. MachineGames put out New Colossus and Youngblood on Switch but not the preceding two Wolfenstein games they made, and Bethesda Game Studios put Skyrim and a bunch of ports of their mobile games like Fallout Shelter and freaking Elder Scrolls Blades lol. Because. I can't speak for every genre because I don't think any one person likes playing every genre. That is why there is no need for apologies. Like most Fallout 4 mods, Better Graphics and Weather does exactly what it says on the tin. Im not sure people will get over this anytime soon but I can empathise with them after the Tomb Raider debacle (and that did eventually come to other platforms). Sometimes an acquisition can be beneficial though. The Bethesda deal with Xbox obviously made sense to them and their shareholders. MS only cares about the money departement you think they give a fu## about what we think. To compete, Sony has to think about how to monopolize things that people won't go without. It is false and unfair to say that there is not creative passion behind Bethesda's games just because of the Microsoft acquisition. I would think that would get boring. Amazon.com. @xMightyMatt14x nice chatting with you man, Sony should buy Rockstar Games (or Rockstar Games, Sony). Site: https://gamerheadquarters.comPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/skycaptin5Discord: https://discord.gg/JTY29WxTwitter: https://twitter.com/Skycaptin5Instagram: https://instagram.com/skycaptin5(Note: If not clear, Xbox Store links are affiliate links, supporting my work)#Fallout 3 #PS5 Gameplay Review where Vault-Tec engineers have worked around the clock on an interactive reproduction of Wasteland life for you to enjoy from the comfort of your own vault. This move is all about sticking two fingers up at PS gamers whilst cackling madly. It seems so long ago when the world was clowning Microsoft for not having exclusives. You'll make choices that completely change the world of DC forever. @vapidwolf lol. In the end, really i feel like its a 7.5 billion dollar investment inti gamepass, and im sure you could argue the merits of that. If they prove themselves like their competition has, I will change my tune quickly. People be funny yo, Instead of wasting it on pointless things, let's direct that anger toward nintendo for not remaking mother 3. Maybe this would have happened without the Zenimax buyout, maybe not. Some businesses deals make sense for the people involved and PlayStation has always been third-wheel to Bethesda's relationship to PC and Xbox. It's just business, we just have to accept that. All a non-issue to me because I'd still probably play their games on PC anyway but the fact they sympathize with PS only gamers is interesting. My mates and I are bought into all 3 console ecosystems but can't stand these two d***s. potentially you could play the Bethesda games on pc or Xcloud via tv app or streaming stick no need to buy an xbox or even buy the game to play them. MS did not play this fair at all and it's a shame so many are praising it as "It's finally Xbox time to shine!" People need to specify that. I doubt these two care about what platform their games release on. Bethesda doesn't owe these crybaby babies *****. If you can't understand the difference then there's no helping you! As for mp shooters, Halos story for 5 was awful, but MP still seen as one of the best. Healthy competition. That's the story. Fallout 5 release window (Image credit: Bethesda) Again, it's unlikely we'll see a Fallout 5 release date anytime soon - but, with Fallout 5 confirmed, we can now at least speculate on its. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. He'll talk about The Witcher all day. @__jamiie did they? @MS7000 In Pete Hines' defence, he was directly asked this question so had to say something. . @TheFrenchiestFry thats fanboy mentality for you. I knew the exclusivity was going to happen the day the buyout happened. I wonder if Sony bought Bethesda how different this comment section would be. Consume everything and consume it now.It also feels like another nail in the coffin of ownership, but nobody cares about that anymore. The future is definitely xbox, but still glad I got my ps5 for the ps4 and ps5 exclusives I missed. You sold out to Microsoft. multiplayer needs to improve. Yes, it is unfortunate. Especially when a few years ago gran turismo with it's first 3 entries had over the hightest score than what metacritic has ever gave forza ever. Actual genius Nintendo employees who have shaped the industry as a whole. @Col_McCafferty exactly they can't cry about us having exclusives that have always been exclusives. maybe they rich too to be buying two consoles lol. That being said they're all proclaiming over on PureXbox that exclusives are great and PlayStation fans are delusional, y'know, the usual crap. I'd rather play Mass Effect or Witcher any day of the week. 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