Good brushes, a good one-piece rod, a bore guide and a solvent at least equal to Shooters Choice are all smart investments. The .17 Remington, on the other hand, is the darling of predator hunters protective over pelts. High density is especially important when loading small-capacity cartridges. Bullets were made out of copper wire and results on small game such as prairie dogs were quite amazing. I may just have to try a few of those with the 8208 powder as well. CFE 223 was introduced in 2012, and CFE Pistol followed in 2014. Ben Voss FN Product Manager talks about the new FN SCAR 15P ultra-compact rifle-caliber pistol at SHOT Show 2023. The new 9mm suppressor can mount easily to any pistol barrel threaded x28 inches and doesn't compromise on sound suppression, gas blowback or recoil. This bullet was good in its day and set the tone for the .17s reputation as an excellent pelt caliber. The most consistent powder with this bullet proved to be A-2200, producing .52- and .46-inch groups at 4,145 and 4,226 fps with 18 and 18.5 grains of powder, respectively. And accuracy improved with a shorter jump in my handloads. Hodgdon CFE BLK, Shooters World Blackout and Alliant Reloder 10x were auditioned. Drifts at 300 yards in a 10-mph cross breeze are 14 inches for the .17 Hornet versus 11 inches for the .223 Rem. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Years ago, a friend who worked at Remington informed me that more Model 700 rifles in .17 Rem. Seventeen-caliber cartridges have always fascinated a certain group of handloaders for some mystical reason. The camera rod of my Lyman borescope is too large in diameter for .17-caliber barrels, so for three of the test rifles I relied on cleaning patches wet with copper solvent to detect the presence of metal fouling. Russ, thought I would hijack your thread to report that my 17 Rem. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. When introducing the .17 Remington Fireball in 2008, Remington copied the .17 Mach IV case with the exception of a couple of dimensions. And for those who have grown weary of forming 17 Ackley Hornet cases from 22 Hornet brass, I have included a CFE BLK load in Hornadys 17 Hornet case. A few .12 and .14 calibers emerged, but those of .17 caliber ended up being the most popular. Compression is light when the Berger 30-grain bullet is seated to an overall cartridge length of 1.830 inches. This was before coyotes invaded the East and decimated the groundhog population, so we accounted for our share of them. A newer powder that shows great promise is StaBall 6.5not only is it temperature insensitive and spherical (which makes charging cases easier), it is fast. Not only that, but it is also stable in a 1:9 twist, which has become the standard in the caliber (from the original 1:10). Pet Loads and Handloader are registered trademarks of Wolfe Publishing Company. 17 MACH IV. It attained the second highest velocities with 20-grain bullets and the highest velocities with 25-grain bullets. If looking to acquire an automated powder-charge dispensing unit to speed up precision reloading, don't judge the RCBS ChargeMaster Lite powder scale and dispenser by its name; the Little Green machine packs a heavy-weight punch with speed and accuracy. Whereas the Redding Model No. It made a huge difference for me on my group size. Most .17 caliber bullets are much lighter than those of .22 caliber, and that makes them greatly dependent on high velocities for quick kills on varmints. After looking at load data for the 17 Mach IV and looking at Quickload, it seems something in the burn rate of IMR 4198, Vihta Vuori N110, Alliant 2400, Alliant Reloader 7, Hodgdon Lil'Gun, Alliant Blue Dot, and IMR 4227 would meet the requirement. If Hodgdons recommended maximum of 12.8 grains is used, switching to the Remington 7 or Federal 205M primer is advised. Based on reloading die sales at RCBS, Ackleys .17 Hornet Improved is still one of the most popular cartridges of its caliber among varmint shooters. Its case is 1.796 inches long and while many assert that its nothing more than a .223 necked to .17, a quick examination of the cases clearly demonstrates that this is not so. Pat Mundy While the S.A.A.M.I.-recommended maximum overall cartridge length is 1.680 inches, my Marlin 1894 feeds 1.720-inch-long rounds without a hitch. : 41,500 50,400 CUP Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. load in a winchester mod. Hornady Load Data Using .17 Remington Bullets: Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for errors in published load data. The CZ 527 and Hornady factory loads combined for this 200-yard group. The new Sako Finnlight II sports an innovative stock and Cerakote metal paired with the terrific 85 action. Barm: I have 3 (three) Varmint type Rifles in caliber 17 Remington. The original powder charge was then poured back in, and the factory bullet was seated to the original overall cartridge length of 1.712 inches. For instance, if you want to shoot the new .17 WSM, you're pretty much limited to Savage's B-Mag and perhaps one or two single-shot, novelty type rifles such as Taylor Firearms' little baby Sharps. Subscriber Services. J. Scott Rupp takes a first look at the Springfield M1A Loaded rifle chambered in the popular 6.5 Creedmoor. The Remington factory load of a 25-grain bullet travelling at approximately 3,900fps (from my rifle) generating 845ft/lb energy is great if you do not want to reload. Colt Model 1861 Special Musket: What's Its Value? Winchester created this load, and named it for what it wasswift. The new powder also flows through good powder measures with minimum charge-to-charge variation in weight. : 2.150" Powder: 24.1 gr 25.9 gr Vel. The shoulder diameter of the Hornady case is also a bit wider in diameter than the Ackley. The .17 Remington works with a wider variety of propellants than one may immediately think. Chamfer and deburr the mouth of the case, run it through the full-length resizing die and the case is ready for fire forming with a reduced powder charge (I use a 20-grain bullet seated over 11.0 grains of H4198). My speed obsession may also have worked against me, as the lightest loads in many cases resulted in the best groups (though these were still well above actual start loads). With an Accu-Fit stock and left hand adjustable bolt, this rifle is a perfect choice for anyone! As mentioned, the .17 was first brought to market with a 25-grain Power Lokt Hollow Point. He owned no powder scale and simply filled the case to the brim with IMR 4198, seated a bullet on top, and commenced to terrorize the local crow population. After the cases were trimmed, loaded and fired, they had not grown in length any appreciable amount. 55mm. For the bigger animals such as predators, its very hard to beat a 25-grain hollow point. This is in my opinion an exceptional load as it will not only make small groups but also makes a very good roe deer load and all that at a . The spring-loaded micrometer head allows for precise bullet seating depth. Today, they are down to one offeringa 25-grain Varmint Hollowpointand its a very accurate projectile. The Sierra 40-grain hollowpoint also preferred 0.005 inch of rifling engagement. Unfortunately, our choices have become very sparse, but the V-MAX and the Berger HP both work better than the lighter bullets. The Hornady and Ackley versions of the 17 Hornet are examples. When charging cases, use care. Neither possessing the generalist appeal of the working class .223, nor the macho western appeal of the .22/250, the .17 caliber usually appeals to a different setthe specialists, such as fur hunters, the tinkerers, and the people who seek enjoyment off the beaten path. All are clean burning and temperature insensitive. Speaking of casesgood cartridge cases are available from a variety of sources, as is loaded ammunition. Hornadys 15.5-grain NTX (Non-Traditional eXpanding) bullet is a polymer-tipped, lead-free (California legal) option allowing screaming velocity combined with dramatic terminal performance on small varmints. Kimber's Hunter Pro Desolve Blak takes the firm's more affordable mountain rifle to new heights. Zippy 25-grain projectiles exit the muzzle in excess of a jaw-dropping 4,000 fps. I started my search for accuracy by seating the Nosler and Berger bullets so that they lightly kissed the rifling. My old pet load for my 17 BDL was with IMR 4320 with 25 Berger Match HP. <oneshot>. Most folks think that Gaston Glock introduced pistols with plastic . In the course of our rifle reviews we ordinarily test for accuracy using as many different loads as possible and tabulate the results. The most accurate loads have been with the Hornady 20gn and 25gn V-Max bullet which turned in 3-shot groups averaging .50-MoA. Well Russ, you picked a bullet I've never tried. After thoroughly cleaning the tube at home, for instance, the added 25-grain Hornady V-MAX loads assembled impressive clusters. While accuracy was better with that ammo than I had anticipated (averaging 1.55 inches at 100 yards), seating bullets in handloads to lightly contact the rifling shrank group size considerably. He did try some CFE 223 and was very happy with it. If the rifle is accurate, one really has to be "off the playing field" to assemble handloads that won't shoot. A proprietary hollowpoint design makes these bullets explosive on varmints, the lead-free composition making them relatively long for weight. Tips, techniques, and equipment are applied to these classroom discussions on how to become more proficient and successful at making long-range shots while hunting with AR-platform rifles. The supplied scope rings that clamp on the square bridge of the receiver are a nice touch. | After that, the die is set for head-spacing on the shoulder of the case. The Hornets velocities are about 500 fps slower than the Fireballs. Introduced in 1965 with the .444 Marlin cartridge, the Model 444 was the most powerful lever action of its day. 7 1/2 primers and 4320 have been the go to combo for 17 Rem. I dont know how Hodgdon fit 11.8. Having the tools, it was decided to make a few barrels. The 527 has a single-set trigger with a pull of 3.5 pounds that contains some creep, but pushing the trigger forward sets it, and pull weight changes to a light one pound. You won't be disappointed if you can find all the components. Case life is long, and barrel life is normally around 7,000 or 8,000 rounds (at least for minute-of-varmint accuracy) due largely to the modest pressures and rather small powder charges. Ten grains gave 20-grain bullets a velocity of nearly 3,700 fps, which is all you can expect from such a small amount of powder. The .17 HMR loads we use include ammunition from CCI with 17 grain TNT bullet, CCI A17 with 17 grain Varmint Tip bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain TNT bullet, Federal Premium with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Hornady with 17 grain V-MAX bullet, Remington Premier with 17 grain AccuTip-V bullet and Winchester Supreme with 17 grain V-MAX bullet. Jeff Bradley shows off the Modern Hunting Rifle (MHR) from Christensen Arms at SHOT Show 2023. Simply run a case through the Ackley full-length resizer and it is ready to load. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. Primers open another interesting can of worms. Chris Johnson, FN Senior Product Manager, walks us through two new FN striker-fired pistols at SHOT Show 2023: the FN 510 Tactical, chambered in 10mm Auto, and the FN 545 Tactical, chambered in .45 ACP. I could say the same with the Berger 25 grain Flat Base Varmint. That put bullets 0.060 inch off the rifling, and while accuracy was not as good as with bullets touching the rifling, it was considerably better than with a longer jump. While shooting, I cleaned powder fouling from their barrels after each 25-round string, but applied no additional copper solvent. This is especially important when loading ammunition on a progressive press. Bullets for the .17 Remington have come a long way since 1971, both in quality and variety. The .17 Fireball includes such mild recoil that the shooter gets to watch all the action through the scope. How does the performance of the .17s compare with .22 caliber varmint cartridges? barm # 13676946 03/21/19. It would not go 20 rounds without overheating the barrel and experiencing velocity excursions. It varied among the three bullets tried. Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.92", (TIE) CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 1.06", Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 1.08", (TIE) Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 1.13", (TIE) Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 1.16", Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 1.21", Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.25", Winchester 1885 Low Wall Hunter, .17 WSM - 1.25", Savage Model 93R17 Classic, .17 HMR - 1.31", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.44", Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.46", Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.54", Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 2.05", Remington Model 547 Custom C Grade, .17 HMR - 0.69" (Remington), Anschutz Model 1717 D Classic, .17 HMR - 0.73" (CCI), Savage B.MAG Target, .17 WSM - 0.75" (Winchester), Thompson/Center Contender G2, .17 HMR - 0.80" (Remington), Remington Model 597 LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.84" (CCI), Browning T-Bolt Target/Varmint, .17 HMR - 0.88" (Winchester), Anschutz Model 1717 D KL, .17 HMR - 0.93" (Remington), Weatherby Mark XXII, .17 HMR - 0.94" (Hornady), CZ Model 452-2E American, .17 HMR - 0.96" (CCI), Remington Model 504-T LS HB, .17 HMR - 0.98" (Federal), (TIE) Marlin Model 917VS ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.0" (Hornady), Anschutz Model 1502 D HB, .17 M2 - 1.06" (Hornady), Marlin Model 917VS ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.13" (Hornady), (TIE) Savage Model 93R17-BTVS, .17 HMR - 1.17" (CCI), (TIE) Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("A")*, .17 HMR - 1.25" (Hornady), Stevens Favorite Model 30R17, .17 HMR - 1.27" (Hornady & Remington - tie), (TIE)Henry Golden Boy, .17 HMR - 1.40" (Remington), Ruger M77/17VMBBZ ("B")*, .17 HMR - 1.47" (CCI), Winchester 1885 Low Wall, .17 HMR - 1.5" (Remington). Patches pushed through the bore came out with the black gunk of powder fouling but no blue color to indicate jacket fouling. can also be quite accurate. sierra Gameking , AOL. The other top-sellers are the .17 Mach IV, .17 Rem., .17 Fireball and Hornadys .17 Hornet. Muzzle flash in a 10.75-inch barrel is minimal, while touching off a charge of LilGun is remindful of how the 221 Fireball got its name. Possibly one of the best varmint load - consistently under 1/4" at 100 yards is 75 grain Sierra (Speer and Remington shoot well too) with 58 grains IMR4350. Ackley and others began developing centerfire cartridges smaller than .22 caliber soon after the end of World War II, and they really got busy during the 1950s. The first 10 rounds were outstanding. There are others, such as the excellent, mild-mannered .17 Mach 2, the accurate but short-lived .17 Remington Fireball and so on, but the cartridges detailed above are the main players on the current seventeen scene. In 1950, Remington introduced the .222 loaded in a completely unique case based on no other. The .17 RFB provides 300 to 400 feet per second (fps) velocity gains over the popular .17 Hornet. Great velocity with 25 grainers but poor accuracy. More reliable bullets allowed .17-caliber rounds like the RFB to be run at 4,000-plus feet per second (fps) without worry of poor terminal performance. There were certainly some exceptional groups involved, but the rifle proved more finicky than I anticipated. I also wondered if this rifle just didnt like heavier slugs, so I decided to try some 25 grain Hornady V-MAX I had acquired after assembling initial loads in a component-shortage swap with a friend. Only a couple of characteristics plague .17-caliber firearms: tiny bullets require delicate rifling that is easily damaged by cleaning equipment; and tiny bores are, well, just plain aggravating to clean. Regardless of the powder used, velocity spread can be a bit high with the 17 Hornet, although it seldom affects accuracy enough to matter within the effective varmint-shooting range of the cartridge. Scott Rupp gets a chance to talk to Aaron Oelger about a few new products from Hodgdon and why reloading store shelves are empty. MSRP: $11.99 per 50-rnd. Cases last just short of forever, an important consideration when choosing a powder for loading bucketfuls of cartridges needed for defending your position from hordes of crazed flickertails. Contributing Editor for RifleShooter Magazine, Brad Fitzpatrick gives us a review of this modernized version of an iconic favorite. The .17 Winchester Super Magnum (.17 WSM) is based on a Winchester .270 commercial nail gun case necked down to accept .17 caliber bullets. .17 WSM ammunition includes Winchester Elite with 20 and 25 grain tipped bullets, Hornady with a 20 grain V-MAX tipped bullet and Federal American Eagle brand with a 20 grain tipped bullet. At least not inside of 300 yards. The new RIA 5.0 Sporting Pistol from Rock Island Armory features a patented RVS Recoil system that maximizes barrel mass and linear movement to give shooters super soft recoil. Hornady loads its .17 Hornet Superformance Varmint cartridges with 20-grain V-MAX bullets and 15.5-grain NTX bullets, with a stated muzzle velocity of 3,650 fps for the V-MAX and 3,870 fps for the NTX. Hodgdons Ron Reiber was the first to try CFE BLK in the field. It simply is the 221 Remington Fireball necked down to 17 caliber, using a 30-degree shoulder. The factory 20-grain loads were accurate and had a velocity of 3,567 fps when shot from a CZ 527 American. (See the article Compared: .17 HMR Varmint Ammunition for more details about .17 HMR ammo.). My LabRadar, which allows meeting deadlines during the endless overcast days of a northern Idaho winter, will not record speeds exceeding 4,000 fps. 1 Single-Shot Rifle: Tips to Improve Its Accuracy, How to Clean a Rifle Barrel the Effective and Harmless Way, 10 Best 6.5mm Rifle Cartridges Available Right Now, Top 10 6.5 PRC (Precision Rifle Cartridge) Rifles, Kimber Hunter Pro Desolve Blak - A Lightweight Heavy Hitter, Browning BLR Lightweight '81 Stainless Takedown Lever Rifle, Mossberg Patriot Predator 6.5 PRC Rifle Review, Review: Springfield Armory M1A Loaded Rifle in 6.5 Creedmoor, RCBS ChargeMaster Lite Review: Not 'Lite' on Ability, Remington Model Seven SS HS Bolt-Action Rifle Review. This bullet, seated to a 1.81-inch OAL, also started turning in better groups. Especially Remington brass. Nosler unprimed brass and Federal Premium Gold Medal 205 Match Small Rifle primers were used throughout. Still, extreme velocity spreads ranged from 104 to 368 fps with IMR-4227, 142 fps with Reloder 7 and 162 fps with H-4198 shooting 20-grain bullets. With the CZ sighted in 1.40 inches high at 100 yards, the bullets still hit an inch above aim at 200 yards. The factory ammo was and is very accurate ammo, this load may possible be Remington's recipe. The primers that seem to consistently work the best (and are the ones most sources recommend) are the CCI 450, Remington 7.5, and CCI BR-4. Vihtavuori N133, IMR-8308 XBR and Accurate LT-30 were paired with this bullet, but none particularly impressed. Both guns are stock Remington 700's with only Rifle Basix triggers added. Vihtavuori N133, Hodgdon Benchmark and Ramshot X-Terminator (same as Accurate A-2230) were tried, with the best group just .62 inch at 4,043 fps with 18 grains of N133, .77 inch at 4,098 fps with 19.5 grains of Benchmark and .70 inch at 3,780 fps with 19 grains of X-Terminator. Also my 17 funnel and a box of the hsm 25 hp bergers. Perhaps you know someone who drives a Maserati, or a 1970s International pickup. Following are the Average Overall Group Size test results for the various .17 caliber rimfire rifles reviewed by Guns and Shooting Online (measured in inches). I have tried just about every bullet made. Yet the little pills zipped downrange from .17-caliber rifles shoot with lazer-like flatness and produce surprisingly impressive results on small game and predators. With the case shoulder bumped back and bullets reseated, it averaged 0.64 inch for five, five-shot groups at 100 yards. He admitted to being stuck in his ways and did very little changing. Of the two, the .17 HMR is far and away the most popular. All recorded groups are fired from a solid bench rest at an outdoor rifle range. The impossibility of getting suitable actions for the .17 Pee Wee cartridge, made it necessary to design several other cartridges which would be suitable for available actions. I was reminded of him while loading IMR 4198 in the Ackley cartridge in order to compare its performance with CFE BLK. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. The Fireball dropped in 1964 with the official introduction of the same companys XP-100 single-shot bolt pistol and provided 90 percent of the .223 Remingtons performance while burning 35 percent less powder. The neck of the case will be shorter than on cases formed from .22 Hornet brass, but accuracy is the same and flickertails dont seem to mind. The load was too much for F-Class. Cases are available from Nosler and Normaand they are quite goodthough a bit more heavily constructed than the original Remingtonsso the handloader must take this into consideration and work up loads carefully if using data that was developed in Remington cases. I'll second the 4320. WARNING: The loads shown here are safe only in the guns for which they were developed. I can say that IMR 8208 XBR is fast becoming my favorite powder. When developing its version of the .17 Hornet, Hornady shortened the .22 Hornet case about 0.050 inch to make overall cartridge length compatible with the magazines of existing rifles in .22 Hornet. At 100 yards there is still a healthy 3,389fps velocity and 638ft/lb striking energy that is more than enough for humane despatches. If i had a bunch of those bullets i would try IMR 4320. .17 Remington - Published Manufacturer Loading Data Shellholders: Hornady #16 Lee #4 Lyman #26 RCBS #10 Recipe Type: Bullet Weight: Recipe Source: Starting Max Source 15.5 gr NTX (HDY) 0.172" Powder: Benchmark (Hodgdon) Primer: REM 7 Case: REM Trim Length: 1.786" C.O.L. As I mentioned, running the case through a 17 Ackley Hornet full-length resizing die bumps back the shoulder, allowing it to fit into the Ackley chamber. Shooting reloads may void any warranty on your firearm. Dimensional differences between the two cases are so slight that load data for the two are interchangeable. Hodgdons recommended maximum of 12.5 grains with a 20-grain bullet fills a case formed from Winchester 22 Hornet brass to its brim. When dropped from a powder measure, an 18.0-grain charge fills a Winchester case almost to the brim, so when applied to those two bullet weights only, the word maximum indicates that 18.0 grains is the maximum amount of CFE BLK the case will hold. Two calibers stand out among those of .17-diameter ilk, although others of newer design may outstrip them in the future. This little gem was introduced originally by Remington in 1971, though similar wildcats had undoubtedly existed for many years prior. Some seating-depth jockeying would likely reap rewards, and the stock could use some work, as a piece of paper will not slip between barrel and stock. Cases did stretch some during firing and then sizing. Hammer Bullets' 18 grain Dead Blow is another excellent nontoxic (California compliant) option milled from a single piece of copper. And experiencing velocity excursions most accurate 17 remington load below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital Magazine downrange! 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