I admit to being prejudiced against the guns that say "Made In Brazil". This one has only an "N" prefix in the serial number. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I do not care that it was Just do not stamp it like that. . Toward the end of the war, Springfield turned out the Model 1903 Mark I. Don't think there's a website for SA serial numbers, but a call to Springfield Customer Service should get you a build year. The frame and slide fit is just as tight as your Les Baer for less than half the price. Springfield Armory National Historic Site A forum community dedicated to Springfield Armory firearm owners and enthusiasts. A lot of debate has gone around on the internet about what the ". In Stock. Item Number: PX9220L. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Would you like to react to this message? Understand this part- ALL Springfield Armory 1911A1 pistols start their life in the forge presses of IMBEL in Brazil. Joined Feb 16, 2018 . Springfield Armory Loaded Micro-Compact 1911-A1; Springfield Armory OD Green Armory Kote "Loaded" 1911 Pistol; Springfield Loaded; Springfield Ultra Compact High-Capacity, Model PX9701l; STI Ranger; . 9 MM .45. . These pistols have "Springfield Custom" etched on the slide, and will have the "NM" prefix to the serial number. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! . Designed specifically for the 9mm cartridge, the EMP features shorter dimensions making it one of the smallest 1911s out there. My question is whether this thing is worthy of upgrading to a ball gun or is it just a run of the mill 1911. Whatever you buy from them, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. model, WW serial number, made in December 2004, is laser etched ", Another G.I., this one Armory Kote OD, WW serial number, production date is August 2006, is marked by laser etching on the the dustcover underside with two lines the first is ". When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Manufacturer: Springfield Armory Model: 1911 A1 GSP Serial Number: NM 7104 Caliber Info:.45 acp Condition: good Barrel Type: 5 Action: Semi-Auto JavaScript is disabled. The 12 month average price is $726.38 new and $682.95 used. What is the easiest way to tell the different models of the Springfield 1911 A1? Others here may no more. Correct, the serial number is on the right side beneath SA made in USA. Thanks. Where was this made Brazil? My prefix is "N" and the gun is marked "IMBEL BRAZIL" on the dustcover and "2003 IMBEL ITAJUBA" under the right grip panel. I also do not like the made in Brazel dust cover. The closest two were 1031438 issued at Buckingham Field October 16 1945 and . 1911 National Match Pistols Production Numbers and Notes 1955-1968. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. 1-100000 Springfield Armory 100001-165500 Winchester R.A. Co. 165501-865500 Springfield Armory . Its possible it was just a stock mil spec that someone added sights to and thats all. I don't believe that to be correct. Springfield Armory 1911-A1 TRP SS .45acp Springfield Armory XD 45c Glock 17 Glock 32 ( G23 barrel ) Smith & Wesson M&P 9. While it's part of the 1911-A1 series from Springfield Armory, curiously it is not so marked: the left side of the slide says simply MIL-SPEC, while the right side bears the Springfield Armory logo. Springfield 1911 DS Prodigy 9mm 20+1 Black Double-Stack Optic Ready Pistol with 5 Inch Barre. From the test 1911 Mil-Spec, serial number NM665381, it punched five holes in 2.75" measured center to center. I'm pretty sure the "NM" just means that it was assembled in the US. Download the official NPS app before your next visit. Serial numbers 80,000 to end of production, so any time after October 1940. . Springfield, I've learned that the NM serial number fetches a little more $ due to being made entirely in the US. 9 MM. "A good general range rule for pistols is that, if what you want to hit appears larger than your front sight, you are within range.". The major changes were a slightly heavier slide and a slotted collet barrel bushing. The new value of a SPRINGFIELD ARMORY 1911A1 pistol has fallen ($361.30) dollars over the past 12 months to a price of $725.24 . Made in Brazil, fitted in U.S.A. as far as I can tell. If nothing else, I really like the look of them. When you goin to the range so I can finally shot your Les Baer? For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. strong>search engines that don t track. By jewish last name starting with l. is equimax safe for miniature horses. I cant wait to shoot it. Just picked up a NM marked milspec. Some of the 57/58 pistols can have plain or stippled front straps.Note 3:All NMs used the same barrel bushingNM7267718, The American Rifleman Magazine - July, 1966, Sign up to get the latest on sales, new releases and more , Total National Match 1911 Pistols Produced and Sold from 1955-1968. The Colt Government Model 1911 is referred to by many as "the world's greatest handgun". Both make about the same per hour and both prove that being around something all day doesn't make you an expert. My TRP has no Brazil marks at all, anywhere, and has the NM serial number. Shopping and looking over several can have advantages.. Ron. Outdoor Hub, LLC (d/b/a Carbon Media Group), 30800 Telegraph Rd, Suite 1921, Bingham Farms, MI 48025 USA. A forum community dedicated to all 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. Ok well mine says made in the USA and has LWS the prefix so what does this mean? Your help is appreciated. Colt introduced this model in 1970 as a newer version of the Model 1911A1. Got any pictures? Anymore and you're just fishing. Firearms made at Springfield Armory after 1865 were given unique serial numbers for identification purposes. You are now reading the usual disclaimer where I disavow any pretence to sanity, and warn you that taking anything I write as anything more than fantasy will result in mayhem or death in short order. Whatever you buy from them, using those banners, gives us a small commission, which helps us keep these sites alive. Looking at the pistol's frame, here are some rules to help you identify its maker: 1. I have a Springfield 1911 Matte blued Loaded model marked "Made in Brazil" on the underside of the frame. Item Number: PH9119AOS. Are they rare? Our Custom 1911 pistolsmiths have over 200 combined years of experience and individually hand fit every major component of your firearm. Is it the same as 'IMBEL' ? My NM Mil-Spec came with a stainless barrel and bushing. Buy Springfield Armory, M1911-A1, .45 ACP, 5" Barrel, National match : GunBroker is the largest seller of Semi Auto Pistols Pistols Guns & Firearms All: 979462391 . The NM serial number indicates this gun was made and assembled in the USA. IIRC, Deb of Springfield Armory stated about a year or two ago that the NM serial means the pistol was assembled and finished in the US instead of Brazil. The change was made at approximately serial number 800,000 for rifles made at Springfield Armory and at serial number 285,507 at Rock Island Arsenal. I dont know much about what Springfield might have made back then but if there is a target style adjustable rear sight, and a target style front sight, then it stands to reason that it was either manufactured as a target pistol or it was built by Springfields custom shop as a hardball gun. Custom Handguns. No telling with out someone who knows how to build them and is familiar with what Springfield made at the time to look it over. Duplicate Serial Numbers: Colt manufactured 60,000 pistols in the Ithaca serial number range (856405-916404), 41,696 in the Remington Rand serial number range (916405-958100), and 4,171 in the US&S serial number range (1088726-1092896). I have a SA 1911-A1 that has a serial number that begins with NM. If not, can anybody provide detail? Are they rare? Any advise would be appreciated for a fair selling price. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! Each Loaded model brings you all the custom features you want but without a custom shop price tag. I'll contact Springfield. . . Woodsman, Match Target, Challenger, Huntsman and Targetsman. Someone else might know more. Seecamp factory. one main difference is that the rails are cut in the US and not in brazil. Worth more? My Mil Spec has the NM serial #, a stainless barrel and bushing, and no Imbel mark. . Other than that it appears to be MIL-SPEC. Imbel is one of the largest, most modern firearms production facilities in the world. 1 - 8 of 8 Posts. According to SA the date of manufacture was Dec 1988. Gunsmithing, Troubleshooting & Refinishing, M1911 Disassembly and reassembly animations, Tests of Products of general shooters interest, Airsoft/Air Gun Modifications, Troubleshooting and Maintenance. Brazil). This seems to be about the time W.R.A. How many of the rest of you with the NM serial # have also the stainless barrel and bushing? I guess I just know now that it is even better than I thought. I Checked mine out the other day and low and behold it is marked "NM". 20878 Views 32 Replies 19 Participants Last post by af22raptor, Jul 17, 2010. Someone once told me that the NM prefix to the serial number meant that the frame came out of Brazil. 1911 Pistols manufactured for foreign Governments either in US or outside US. Springfield 1911 Emissary 45 ACP Full-Size Pistol with VZ G10 Grips. It is well known that Springfield Armory Inc. 1911's start from IMBEL forgings from Brazil. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. They are stamped, two on top of the firing pin hole and two below the hole. 9 MM. The only frame and slide and barrel made in the US are for the Custom shop. This firearm comes with original case, 1 extra magazine, and 1 extra grips. my NM is totally different than knedrgr's N marked gun. S/N C135000 to C139999 - 1924 - 5000 S/N C140000 to 144999 - 1925 - 5000 S/N C145000 to C150999 - 1926 - 6000 S/N C151000 to C151999 - 1927 - 1000 S/N C152000 to C154999 - 1928 - 3000 it looks like a "professional model" thats one or two years old. I don't think any of Springfield's pistols are entirely "Made in America". Just pokin' at him a bit. LW is the prefix apparently it stands for light weight according to the Service Rep. so I take it the Range Officer is an American made guns? I have two N Mil-Specs and one NM Mil-Spec. The frame and slide are still forged in Brazil, however. MA NM is merely a prefix for 1911s that are fitted here in the states. My Hardball Clark is built on one. The truth is, Alex and I are lovers. My first encounter was when shopping for my first 5" SA. fc-falcon">Springfield Armory, Inc. Our Custom 1911 pistolsmiths have over 200 combined years of experience and individually hand fit every major component of your firearm. On top of that, on the slide, is the Springfield stamp, followed by "Springfield Armory". Springfield Armory 1911-A1 90's Edition - Desirable NM. Also, I've read but never confirmed, that the build date (year) is stamped on the frame under the grips--can't remember which side. The GI's are also made in Brazil and have the WW prefix. Note 1:SA stopped stamping the last 4 digits of the serial number on the right side of the slide in 1962, but starting in 1963 or 1964, they stamped the last 4 digit of the frame serial number on the slide under the firing pin stop.They are stamped, two on top of the firing pin hole and two below the hole. All are forged in Brazil. You still pay the normal price, our commission comes from their profit, so you have nothing to lose, while we have something to gain. JavaScript is disabled. Most were dressed up WW2 variants and competing with Colt. From my experience.. A percentage of the different lines still carry the NM prefix and are sold right beside the N prefix, same price. Guys with a Springfield Armory serial number NM doesn't mean National Match. It is just the finishing and the fitting that is done here on the NM. The NM frames had most of the work done in Brazil but the frame rails were done here in the US. Assigned serial numbers. What I gather is that the "NM" guns have slides and frames that were forged at Imbel, but were finish-machined and fitted here in the USA. Absolutely I think they're probably just fine guns and I would still love to one day acquire one just to throw in the back of my truck in the toolbox but there's something about a Springfield it does say USA on the side so I'm just going to pretend to be ignorant All American lol but it does seem to be a very quality handgun it's definitely not a Glock.